At RSAC Conference 2025, Cloud Range CEO and founder Debbie Gordon sits down with Adrian Sanabria, host of Enterprise Security Weekly, in the CyberRisk TV studio to talk about a problem most organizations don’t want to admit:

It’s not that they lack tools—it’s that their teams lack experience under pressure.

Fresh off Cloud Range’s win for Best IT Security-Related Training Program at the 2025 SC Awards, Debbie explains why the widely discussed “cyber skills gap” is, in practice, an experience gap. Most SOC and incident response teams only encounter major attacks for the first time in production, when the stakes are highest and emotions are running hot. By then, it’s too late to be reading query language docs or figuring out workflows on the fly.

Debbie dives into how Cloud Range’s cyber range platform gives teams a safe, virtual replica of an enterprise network—across IT and OT/critical infrastructure—where they can practice defending against real-world attacks. Using live traffic, scripted threat scenarios informed by current intelligence, and guided exercises, analysts and incident responders build the muscle memory, situational awareness, and team communication they need before a real incident hits.

The conversation also explores how organizations are moving beyond individual training budgets and treating simulation-based readiness as part of the core security program. Cloud Range customers continuously measure detection and response times, benchmark against peers, and translate team performance into tangible metrics like reduced dwell time and risk—data that CISOs can bring to executives and boards.

Throughout the interview, Debbie shares how this approach not only strengthens defenses but also improves job satisfaction and reduces burnout. When analysts see their organizations investing in realistic practice and can feel themselves getting better, their confidence and mission focus increase.

Watch this interview to learn:

• Why most major breaches aren’t caused by missing tools, but by teams who’ve never seen that attack before

• How live-fire simulations turn training from a checkbox exercise into a measurable reduction in risk

• Why cybersecurity is a true team sport—and why teams should train together, not just as individuals

• How Cloud Range helps organizations benchmark and improve dwell time, detection, and response

• Why continuous, scenario-based practice is becoming essential for modern cyber resilience

If you’re a CISO, SOC leader, or security decision-maker, this conversation offers a practical look at what “real readiness” looks like in 2025—and how cyber ranges are helping organizations get there.